November 7, 2008

Roof Realization

After reading chat from the meatserver some days, I find it hard to believe people can be so retarded. But since Arrival was not functioning today, I decided to use MythChat to see if the myth guys were having any trouble. Well, it turns out they are. The server was working just fine, however. I forgot I had MythChat running and checked about an hour later, and this is ALL that had been said in that time.
(Warning: A whole lot of spam follows)
(Try to read between the lines a little bit more)

olmec: Community Commentary, meta (meta is the best word ever) + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 10:43 pm

November 6, 2008

Wrk’s List

I’m moving the list of Pfhorums topics I don’t want to forget to JFO by request.

BOOM BEBBY!
I find this creepy
Marathon Game Launcher
CryoS’s little room of art.
Flooding Marathon
Infinity problem
scripting
The pfhorums are my family
Oppression
Lh’owon Swamp Romp
iBaby
Marathon : Apotheosis
Pictures of you
A Note on Mariusnet and attempting to impersonate admins
can someone help
can someone help
Dusk Textures
Just gave Halo a try.. I am shocked
Connection issues
OpenGL + Vista
Zomgodz I found the connection
Proof that JUICE is here
/!\
Meatmanek
Marathon Ladder
I am not Goran… Leave me alone
Netgames now support more than 8 players!
Guests
And what is your Lama number
-Untitled-
Pfhortipfhy’s birthday!
JUICEMAN
Demotional
Post count?
Hey Dudes!
Map Making Tool for A1
Natural Language
You almost kickban people?
What is the Clique?
Viva La Vida
We can’t let this happen
Marathon limericks
Current state of the Marathon community in your opinion
Questions about fileball
Possible Scratchbuilt Marathon 3D Game
Plea against Johnny_Strabler
CLIQUE members only.
Random Help
Something that should be looked into
Crator Creater smells nice
Infinity Marbles
spirit of the age

(Try to read between the lines a little bit more)

olmec: Community Commentary, Lists, Pfhorums + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 12:24 am

October 23, 2008

On Ray

There has been quite a bit of chatter about Ray on the metaserver and it seems he is quickly becoming the most popular person in the community. Or at least the most talked about. I could write something about him, but why don’t I just let the community speak for itself.

(Try to read between the lines a little bit more)

olmec: CLIQUE, Celebrities, Community Commentary, Logs, ONE WAY, People, meta (meta is the best word ever) + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 11:40 pm

October 1, 2008

Buddhism and #alephone

There is a Buddhist scripture, referred to in English as the one-letter prajnaparamita, that (as one might expect) consists of a single letter:

This Sanskrit character is pronounced as ‘a’ and is cognate in Indoeuropean languages to the prefixes ‘an,’ ‘in,’ and ‘un,’ as in ‘unthinking,’ ‘undo,’ ‘involuntary’ — that is, it acts as a negation particle. अ could then be equally well translated as ‘no.’ Speaking somewhat loosely, the Buddhist intention of the script is to say that nothing you could possibly say or write would be at all accurate or correct in the context of meaningful discussion of Buddhism, Nirvana, the nature of reality, etc., etc.

अ

I will let you draw your own conclusions.

olmec: #a1, *IMAGE*, CLIQUE, Celebrities, Community Commentary, Jokes, Policy, + tapped to you by thermoplyae @ 5:18 pm

August 17, 2008

New content?

By now, everyone knows about the CLIQUE. Basically, it started as a group of people that liked to play Marathon. Because they weren’t completely satisfied with what they had, they started making new things and contributing to the community. Whether it was new maps, new game types, new scenarios, or whatever, they took it upon themselves to do whatever they could to make Marathon more fun to them. But now, several years have passed since the CLIQUE formed. So here’s my question, why has no new group surfaced?

There is no longer a bunch of new content being created for alephone, and that can’t be blamed on the lack of people playing the game. If we compare how many new files per month are now posted to Simplici7y, to how many were posted on Fileball per month a couple years ago, it has gone way down. But, the metastalker stats show that the number of games played per month is still going strong. So, where is the new content? Sure, we’ve had a few new things lately, Lua visual mode, some new maps by Ryoko, new gametypes, but those were all done by CLIQUE. Out of all the people playing on the metaserver today, why hasn’t a group of the less annoying people gotten together and started creating their own stuff? That is exactly how the CLIQUE formed in the first place. None of us knew each other before joining the AIM room to play games, and we formed a group because so many other people in the AIM room were annoying, or didn’t stick around very long. The metaserver today has the same problems the old AIM room had, and a minority of competent people still play games, so the situation seems exactly the same.

The major motivation for creating content is that you get to play maps, game types or whatever that you created yourself. Sick of the same old maps? Bad maps? Create your own! When I started playing alephone online, infinity stock maps were hosted more than anything else. They were really not very good, so better maps were created. What is so different now? Looking at the list of people that host the most these days, almost none of them make maps. This seems very strange to me.

Irons and I had a discussion about this a few days ago, and we threw out some ideas as to why this might be. Is it possible that there are enough good maps available these days, that we just don’t need any more? There are probably 5 or so high quality map packs out there that didn’t exist when I started playing. But it is just my opinion that these maps are good. It seems like a person just joining the community might have their own opinions about what is good, and then why wouldn’t they want to create their own maps to go along with that? The opinions of CLIQUE, as influential as they are, might suffocate newcomers’ desire to be creative, or maybe it’s just that the members of the CLIQUE are still active enough that no new people need to start making content. This may be true; Ryoko has been updating his Paradise Lost pack with new maps lately, and I released a few Lua game types. Even so, let’s face it: everyone likes to play his own stuff. Back when Irons was mapping, he’d host his own levels all the time. When Red Spectrum still needed playtesting and was not yet as widely-revered, Ryoko hosted it all the time. Mappers have always liked to show off their efforts, and that just doesn’t seem to be the case anymore.

Maybe there is a new group of people making content that I’m not aware of. I consider $lave to be sort of a “new generation” player that is making good stuff, but it seems like there should be more “new generation” players by now. Again, the presence of the CLIQUE might have affected events, $lave feeling that he is overshadowed by or on the periphery of the CLIQUE, and so he sees no point in breaking away from the established order. There’s a certain awareness in the Marathon community now that wasn’t yet established in the AIM chatroom days: Pfhorums and metaserver did not catch on until after the seeds of CLIQUE had been sown. Ryoko, Irons, Treellama, and I had no sense of the orders that already were in place, or we ignored it altogether, jumping on Pfhorums instead of taking the old route of community through the Story Board.

Among the other things Irons and I discussed, one of the strongest points was that a new forum (and community) launched at the same time that CLIQUE was in its infancy. We wondered if a similar event might allow a new group space to grow on their own board. Again, there is a counter-example, INFINITYS. On the surface, INFINITYS looks like a breakaway community that wishes to redefine some segment of Marathon. Several things are preventing anyone taking INFINITYS seriously (not the least of which is the higher-quality service provided by F.B.O. and Pfhorums), but one must remember that the creator of INFINITYS was banned from another community, unlike Appleswitch and the CLIQUE.

I know this blog doesn’t provide much opportunity for discussion, but I would really like to hear some thoughts on why this might be. If that doesn’t happen, I at least got to rant for a while.

olmec: Community Commentary + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 2:10 am

August 1, 2008

July Post of the Month

Picking the POTM was tough this time. There were several good posts in this topic, but Shadowbreaker wins with:

“I didn’t say I had any. But, I seem to be a much more respected member of the Pfhorums than you. All you do is ramble on about nothing while I work on my great scenario, and if not assist others with theirs.”

I’d also recommend reading the post that started that topic, just be careful not to burn your face.

olmec: Community Commentary, POTM, Periodical + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 12:09 am

July 18, 2008

Noob Flood

A while back, I wrote a post about how the community was dying down a bit. People were posting less on the pfhorums and the metaserver’s activity dropped a little. WELL! Now it’s the summer, and once again we get a new wave of activity. Of course, with activity comes a huge increase in retardation. As I had mentioned before, stupidity has always been at the core of the community, and if you’ve joined the metaserver recently, you’d have to agree with me.

If you look at the numbers alone, the metaserver has been more active than it has in the last 7 months at least (as long as I’ve been recording statistics). At the current rate, there will have been more than 3,500 games this month, which is roughly 1000 more than the previous months. I’m guessing this is due to it being summer and people are more free to waste time, and this is a good thing.

But there is a cost. If you’ve visited the metaserver lately, you’ll rarely find a time when at least one person isn’t spamming the chat with random bullshit. At best, you’ll find people talking about the game they’re playing, but they’ll be typing as 12 year-olds typically do on the internet. “How r u?” is a typical sentence you’ll find. When it’s in full fail mode, you’ll get people typing whatever they can as quicly as possible and hitting return so that there is a constant stream of crap being thrown to the screen, and no one can talk properly. And since there is rarely anyone around that can do anything to stop it, there is no reason for these people to stop doing it.

The worst part about this is, good players and smarter players have been driven away by all the new idiots. People have either left completely or have resorted to muting everyone in the metaserver just to play.

I have to wonder how Marathon attracts new people that are so young, and why these people would be interested in such an old game. Some of these people weren’t even born when the game came out. While I do think it’s cool that marathon is still attracting new people, I just don’t understand why it always has to be accompainied by a crowd that takes the fun out of the game.

It seems to me like it’s a lose-lose situation. Either the community doesn’t attract new people and it dies out, or it does attract new people that make the game harder to enjoy. What happened to the days when I could actually play games with people I didn’t find annoying. Did this ever actually exist? Am I just blocking out how much it really sucked?

I probably am.

I don’t know which is worse. Having a community that isn’t active and is kind of boring, or a community that is just plain annoying. Well, I’m still here, so I guess I’ll take either :C.

olmec: Community Commentary, meta (meta is the best word ever) + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 11:37 pm

July 3, 2008

On "The One"

EDITOR’S NOTE: This man has been punished for his so-called “ideals.” For his CLIQUE-hurting “tru7h.” I’d tell you to send him a get well card, but the mail doesn’t make it to where he is now. Read on to see what caused the downfall of one “Thermoplyae.”

The One has left the community! The One was a young outsider with a sharp wit and a talent for programming, and he vanished early this May due to conflict on the Pfhorums, and woe is us! We’re in a lot of trouble!

So, a nerdy, childish forum-goer decided he had better things to do than become involved in the Marathon community. What does that got to do with the price of rice, right? And why is that woe to us? Because you and the other hundred visitors of this site are reading this article right now. Because less than 3 percent of you people understand literary allusion. Because less than 15 percent of you play on Total Carnage. Because the only truth you know is what you get through JFO. Right now there is an entire generation of Marathon players who never knew anything that didn’t come out of JFO.

JFO is the gospel, the ultimate revelation. JFO can make or break mappers, administrators, writers, and artists. JFO is the most awesome goddamn force in the whole godless community, and woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong people, and that’s why woe is us that The One left the community! This site is now entirely in the hands of the CLIQUE, and there’s a new community leader, a man called Jon Irons, taking The One’s place in dominating the Pfhorums. And when one of the most influential Marathon groups controls the most awesome goddamn propaganda force in the whole godless community, who knows what shit will be peddled for tru7h on this website.

So, you listen to me. You listen to me! JFO is not the tru7h. JFO’s a goddamn amusement park. JFO is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of trolls, mappers, artists, writers, pornography peddlers, and programmers. We’re here to assuage our own boredom!

So if you want the tru7h, go to the Story Pages. Go to the MSF archives. Think for yourselves! Because that’s the only place you’re ever going to find any real tru7h. But, man, you’re never going to get any tru7h from us. We’ll tell you any shit you want to hear, and we’ll lie like hell. Oh, we’ll tell you that Ryoko always bans the trolls, and that nobody in the CLIQUE ever makes a bad netmap, and no matter how much trouble the Marine is in, don’t worry, just look at the remaining level count. At the end of the game, he’s going to win. We’ll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in jokes and illusions, man, none of it is true! But you people sit there on the metaserver and the forums, day after day, night after night — all ages, colors, creeds. JFO is all you know!

You’re beginning to believe the illusions we’re spinning here! You’re beginning to think that the CLIQUE is reality and that your own posts are substandard. You do whatever the CLIQUE tells you — you map like the CLIQUE, you review like the CLIQUE, you force your friends into Marathon like the CLIQUE. You even think like the CLIQUE! This is mass madness, you maniacs! In God’s name, you people are the real thing. We are the illusion!

So close your web browser right now. Close it now! Close it right now! Close it and leave it closed. Close it right in the middle of this sentence you’re reading now! Close it!!

(With apologies to Chayefsky.)

olmec: CLIQUE, Community Commentary, Forbidden, People, meta (meta is the best word ever) + tapped to you by thermoplyae @ 7:46 pm

July 2, 2008

June Post of the Month

This month’s winner goes to Alan for his post in the wonderful Viva La Vida topic.

Why is epstein talking about pudding???

Also I am not spamming. Treellama, I said everyone (should) buy this album. (Should). I’m not forcing you. See look I put it in bold for you and this time I put parentheses for you too so even you can understand. And getting one email about something you don’t like is not spamming. If I were to email any of you once to say hi and ask stuff about you like, how are you. Would that be considered spamming? I know that would be a weird email but that was just a example. This isn’t even a email. Everyone of you entered Chat and saw this topic and visited it and didn’t know if you would like it. And most of you, or all of you didn’t like it when you did. Then you visited it again but this time knowing you don’t like it. This is kind of like searching for something on google and then something you don’t know about comes up as a result out many other results and you enter it. Then you don’t like it and leave then come back again, and again and telling people that it’s spam. Everything I underlined is wrong.

Anyhoo… Two more days until the album Viva La Vida comes!

GO PEOPLE WITH ACCENTS!

I feel that I should also mention epstein’s awesome posts in the topic. Continuing to talk about pudding made the topic worth reading.

olmec: *LINK*, Community Commentary, POTM, Periodical + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 12:12 am

May 31, 2008

May Post of the Month!

Congratulations to Ahuxley for winning the May Post of the Month! His post is too awesome to have here. You’ll have to view it on pfhorums to believe it.

The runner up:

You know, these posts are starting to really piss me off.

Let me ask a simple question. Have any of you ported anything to other systems (ignoring Treelama)? Or better yet, has anyone here made anything that contributed to Marathon? Shitty multiplayer maps don’t count. So stop acting like fucking assholes, like you had any experience in this sort of thing. I really like how some of you are saying “its comon sesne t0 mak backups” when, ironically enough, I bet none of you have ever made any backups to anything except your porn.

Bottom line, shut the fuck up and stop acting like fucking animals.

- DeepThought

Edit by irons: I’m stupad, so stupad, for making W’rk post his POTM as early as he did. He forgot to mention this on the update.

olmec: Community Commentary, POTM, Periodical + tapped to you by wrkncacnter @ 11:18 pm
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